from the intoxicating influences of sin (like the impact of selfish passion, greed, etc.). Structured as an ongoing 52-week program, The Landing aims to help hurting teenagers get closer to Jesus as they learn key principles based on the Beatitudes to live a . The Celebrate Recovery Step Studies use the 12 Steps with their biblical comparisons and the eight principles that are based on the Beatitudes. The last thing I want to do is delve deeper into my issues/motivations/whatever. Even the very symbol that is used on the AA book is very occultic, as seen from the pictures provided. The ministry is "group based." All groups are gender specific and use the Small Group . A person could choose Buddha, Allah, Shati, Satan, as well as AA itself. How you define any program that has a veneer of righteousness connected to it, should be tested to the Word of God. We must be a willing vessel to share the truth with others, even at the cost of suffering, for if we dont, then we are not picking up our cross. It is based on the actual words of Jesus rather than psychological theory. Roadblocks of indifference and prejudice. Anxiety causes us to waste precious energy dealing with past hurts hiding stuff and fear of being found inept kept me from present Hiding kept me Change can only happen in the present . 25 years ago, Saddleback Church launched Celebrate Recovery with 43 people. First Baptist Church of Arnold (10.7 mi) 2012 Missouri State Road, Arnold, Missouri 63010 United States. I had provided her some more truth concerning Rick Warren, but ultimately she did not understand what my purpose was there, and told me that I could not come back to Celebrate Recovery. I previously completed step studies and attended CR as a participant. When we have the fear of the Lord, we fear less of how others might react, and more on doing what is right before Him. 314-267-4456. Within AA, the introduction is similar in the person identifies as their addiction, My Name is, and I am a drug addict/alcoholic. Why must every A.A. hit bottom? St Boniface Church-Franciscans. That is what is so amazing about God. It wasnt until I became a facilitator that I began questioning the program. Next, I moved on to being baptized, which both my husband and I were able to actually do for her. Did Jesus change the water into wine or grape juice? We believe that this program targets the one thing that we all have in commonwe're all messed up in one way or another. If you are a Christian in recovery and currently attending a twelve step program whether it be Alcoholics Anonymous, Celebrate Recovery, Hunger for Healing or any of the other assortment of spin off programs, please take the time to consider the following information. Subscribe to CT Baker went on to study at Golden Gate Baptist Seminary and serve at Saddleback as volunteer, staff member, pastor, and elder as Celebrate Recovery grew across denominations and ministry networks. We are all broken and in need of a Saviour; my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ,. Gal 5:19The acts of the flesh are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity, and debauchery; 20idolatry and sorcery; hatred, discord, jealousy, and rage; rivalries, divisions, factions, 21and envy; drunkenness, carousing, and the like. This immediately goes against the first 2 of the 10 commandments, as it promotes the worship of any or all other gods, and idolatry(Ex 20:3-6). Thank you for sharing. Instead, they have turned to unconventional and esoteric sources in the hopes of finding what they seek in the ambiance of the mystical, magical and metaphysical.1 Given these tendencies, the Jesus of orthodox Christianity may seem inadequate. He wanted to also save lives, now. Just as I am whereever I am. Is Celebrate Recovery a biblically sound program? Life's problems can be stumbling blocks or stepping stones. Why do we need 12 steps when the only step our Saviour has told us to do is repent and turn away from sin/evil. It is a welcoming community and provided a perfect place for our retreat. It was designed as a program to help those struggling with hurts, habits and hang-ups . So, it is important to keep ourselves pure from false doctrines and teachers. It is strongly advised that they remain focused on themselves until their sobriety is strong. Yes, God can and does help people through the church and power of the Holy Spirit with repentance. My KJV Bible is all I need in this life plus my brothers and sisters in Christ. Recovery is a term that primarily denotes a process of physical healing. True sobriety is not only having control over the body, but also the mind. If there is darkness in the AA program leading people astray, what better place to set up a lamp stand? While growing up, I was familiar with the term AA and Alanon, as my grandfather was an alcoholic, as well as other family members. I dont go to CR meetings like I used to but at times I still go. His efforts to make amends to his wife, Cheryl, as part of the 12 steps led to him attending Saddleback Church with her, hearing Rick Warren preach, and renewing their marriage vows in a span of months. Initially when I went through rehab, now over 13 years ago, I went briefly through AA(Alcoholics Anonymous) as it was a requirement of the rehabilitation program I was part of. They preached about their higher power being God or Jesus but seemed to have no faith that He could deliver her or anyone Without AA. Or perhaps a sort of alternative that is more Christ centered such as Celebrate Recovery? 70 percent of the people that attend are not church members because they feel that the churches have let them down. Self-righteousness. Do not take the writer of this piece or even my word. Over the years, many celebrities have chosen to use their voices and their platforms to speak openly . Happy are those who know they are spiritutally poor. He told me exactly what would happen, and how it would play out. It reminds me of a favorite passage of mine: Hebrews 11:25Choosing rather to suffer affliction with the people of God, than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season; 26Esteeming the reproach of Christ greater riches than the treasures in Egypt: for he had respect unto the recompence of the reward. It can come as a shock to many individuals to discover that the good times can also be a test as well. Contact the group directly to see if these are offered. Some Celebrate Recovery groups offer childcare: "Celebration Place" for kids and "The Landing" for youth. I read this and the Spirit of God prompted to reply. Likewise, the acceptance of false doctrine will also impair correct judgment and can lead to spiritual decay/death. So much in Christianity today is not based on Christ's teachings as much as it's based upon the ideas and theories of mankind. Thank you, Patty for sharing your thoughts and comment on this matter. However, you can pat yourself on the back for making it . 4. We will be held accountable for the truth that we were given, and at the expense of our flesh, rejected. Daly City Celebrate Recovery. In fact, there are many programs and practices that may appear to be beneficial to the mind and body, yet when we test those practices against the word of God, they are proven to be false. Roughly in 2014, I was going through some books in our bookshelf, and my eyes came upon the Big Book (Alcoholics Anonymous), and an Alateen book that I had for quite a long time. Please check directly with each church to find out if they are running during Covid-19. Quoting from my blog: Many seem to believe that as long as something appears good, and that someone is helped that it must be of God, when this is simply not true; while He can draw His own creation to Him, in whatever circumstance they are in, this does not mean that it is His perfect will for them to continue on in what they are doing or involved in. It becomes an addiction because the flesh craves it. Sustained and personal exertion necessary to conform to Gods will. Copyright 2002-2023 Got Questions Ministries. As they had all turned their backs on Yeshua/Jesus and His Word, they then had no problem turning their back on me. Celebrate Recovery (CR) meets at 6 p.m. Saturdays at Good Shepherd Church, 2341 S. Military Trail, West Palm Beach, featuring dinner, a big meeting and small open share groups. Is Celebrate Recovery a biblical program? I am so glad to hear of the insights that you have received from the Holy Spirit pertaining to this program. Substitution of A.A. as Higher Power. Your email address will not be published. The truth is that my life was saved. Celebrate Recovery is simply AA but with a disguise of a false light, a false gospel and a false Jesus. These first three steps of the 12, undermine the gospel, and allow an individual to accept whatever higher power they choose. Celebrate Recovery is credited with helping destigmatize addiction among evangelicals and opening the church up as a safer place for recovery. 2) We came to believe that a power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity. It is for anyone who has a "hurt, hang-up, or habit" within the community at large or our own church body - not restricted to only people struggling with an addiction. So, with my final mission in view, with bible in hand, I walked into Celebrate Recovery for the last time. This is the antichrist, who denies the Father and the Son. Thanks for sharing brother. Wow. For example, as I mentioned in my post, I would not partake in the worship: I attended CR for a year, and during that time I was instructed by the Spirit to not partake in the worship, as the music and worship came from Saddleback. AA/NA holds people in bondage, making them think they are free. Being a light, means exposing the darkness, not partaking in it, otherwise that light itself would become dark: Luke 11:33No man, when he hath lighted a candle, putteth it in a secret place, neither under a bushel, but on a candlestick, that they which come in may see the light. How shall we let God into our lives? My faith was empowered, as I knew it was my time to speak His Words. Believing you are finally cured of your addiction. 48But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. This is what I did, as led by the Holy Spirit. 4 The Scriptures make it quite clear that these practices are contrary to the way of the Lord(YHWH). (Pgs 8-9). Also on the part of forgiveness, we ar encouraged to also forgive God. Dr. Clint Archer is a pastor of many years whose international ministry has taken him to 22 different countries so far. What does the Bible say about drunkards? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, 10Nor thieves, nor covetous, NOR DRUNKARDS, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. John touched more people with the healing power and grace of Jesus Christ than anyone else that I have ever known personally and one of those lives was mine, wrote Celebrate Recoverys national director and national training coach Mac and Mary Owen. The ouija board got moving in earnest. Recovery signals a dramatic shift in the expectation for positive outcomes for individuals who experience mental and substance use conditions or the co-occurring of the two. Like you mentioned, allowing God to guide you away from false teachings. So, if you are sharing the truth about Gods Word, and how it contradicts the doctrine and spiritual application within AA, then great, but I am not sure how they would allow that to continue if the leaders of AA became known you were speaking out against the program. This is my concern also for you, in that you are highly esteeming a program over that of the Word, which is the same spirit that I encountered while attending my last day of CR. They didnt attend any program, they just hit their rock bottom which is only decided by the individual suffering addiction. After the meeting was over, all the women left, did not say anything to me, just turned their backs and left. 12) Having had a spiritual experience as the result of these steps, we try to carry this message to others and practice these principles in all our affairs. Manny blessings, and I will be praying for you! So, now what about the 12 steps? Baker immediately saw the need to connect the gospel with the recovery program he had gone through. Staff was great, attentive to our needs and" more. Both alcohol and drugs impair judgment and control of the body. Bauxite mining would threaten birds, plants, and clean water. Most people cannot stay sober or clean or free from any perversion for more than six months on average, only to "go back out". 10h 30m. While I want everyone to come to know Jesus Christ our Lord, it is ultimately their decision. I also know many who have never even tempted themselves ever again. 2 Cor 11:13For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. Not only that, but these biblical comparisons are verses that are taken completely out of context, and have absolutely nothing to do with what they are trying to fit, it is like trying to fit a square peg into a round holeAnd just as like above, there is no mention of the these addictions being sin, but rather what is called: hangups, habits, and character defects; and of course no mention of repentance either. The spirit is willing, but the body is weak." We've been talking the last seven weeks about coming out of the dark, exposing our problems to the light of God's love, and . They'll say, "I don't know anybody that doesn't need recovery" where I often chimed in, "I don't know anyone who doesn't need Jesus." I have gone and still go to CR meetings. There is a saying I have heard often, which goes something like this, Whatever works to get them there or even the ones affected. Create a safe place for hurting teenagers to overcome life's challenges by launching a Celebrate Recovery ministry-The Landing-for the students in your church, with the The Landing: Celebrate Recovery for Students Kit.. I love hearing peoples stories and the work God has done through the cross and his saving grace in others lives. If God can work through the mouth of a mule he can work through anyone he chooses. (Pgs 5-6), Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to alcoholics, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.Joy of living is the theme of the Twelfth Step. The program addresses not just alcoholism and drug addiction, but codependency, depression, eating disorders, gambling, sexual addiction and sexual abuse. Having said that, this review (completed largely with the help of Matthew Mumma) will demonstrate that CR contains two major problems: (1) Though claiming to be biblically based, its teachings are often constructed from a misuse of Scripture and an erroneous hermeneutic. And Sobriety in any sense is not just for the addict but also for the many afflicted by the addict, such as the one that died in an accident. There did not come a time when there was an exception for drunkenness. Variety of ways to faith. I too may have mixed feelings about this post. 314-607-8165. You made some really good points. Analyzing Celebrate Recovery (C.R.) (RNS) John Baker, co-founder of Celebrate Recovery, an evangelical support group that helps people with "hurts, hangups and habits," has died. His moral teaching-most excellent. Celebrate Recoverys 12-steps, are AAs 12-steps, but with a biblical comparison to each one. I was informed that the lead woman of the group would not be there(the same one who had pulled me aside), and that I would be speaking first when the group began. With Gods help, he showed again and again that those cycles can be broken, he said. I have yet to meet an alcoholic who can not relate to Proverbs 23:29-35 no matter what they believe in; its a great introduction for a drunk to the Word of God. If I were to base my experience and how it made me feel as the only factors of judgement on such practice, I would consider it to be good. "This is a great place to hold an event. Required fields are marked *. To become truly sober, or sober-minded, is not just abstaining from toxic substances from the physical body, but also toxic doctrines from the mind/heart. All things including our evil ways will work to the glory of God somehow, and that is something I do and must believe in my journey. So, I dont think we really have differing views on this, as you can be led into a church, program or group to share the truth of Gods Word, without necessarily being a partaker in it. I know, for me, it wasn't hard to recite the 12 steps in solidarity at a . There were malign and mischievous ones of all descriptions, telling of vices quite beyond my ken, even as former alcoholics. Subscribers receive full access to the archives. Action its keyword. 3. 1 Founded 25 years ago by pastor Rick Warren and the Saddleback Church in California, it started with just 43 people but now has groups in 29,000 churches all over the globe with more than 3.5 million . While also providing a witness and a rebuke to the women leaders or the womens group, as it was preaching different gospel, and a different Jesus/Yeshua.. What partnership have righteousness and lawlessness, or what fellowship has light with darkness? However, the cost of sharing the truth with others, is rejection. Celebrate Recovery is a proven 25+ year old Christ-based 12-step program based on the Beatitudes. Both were heavily involved in the occult, and many of the practices that were endorsed in Oxford Group, continued on with the establishment of AA. They meet at Family Life Church on Monday nights at . Two members of that group William(Bill) Wilson, and Dr. Bob Smith came together in 1935 to officially start what is known as AA. I sat down with my bible on my lap, that I could not open, but with Scripture memorized, and words that I knew to speak. We admitted we were powerless over alcoholthat our lives had become unmanageable.Who cares to admit complete defeat? You may want to celebrate any, or all, of the following milestones in recovery: (Don't celebrate too much here because you are VERY much at risk still for relapse in the early days of recovery. 12For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD(YHWH): and because of these abominations the LORD(YHWH) thy God doth drive them out from before thee. This is why I had thrown away the Blue Book, as well as an Alateen book I had aquired when I was younger. From that point on, I cannot recall all that I spoke, however, I remember the power of the Holy Spirit was so strong, that not only did I literally believe that time was stopped for me to speak, but I could feel all the demons around me being held back and I was engulfed in this protective shell. This is what brings us to our Lord. It isnt just the impact he had on individual lives but on all of those who loved those who decided to walk into a Celebrate Recovery meeting.. The Dangers of Dishonesty in Recovery. Yeshua is still in the healing and deliverance ministry. Who am I? It was still a deep tissue massage, which helped me to relax, and relive my sore muscles, however, I was engaging in a practice that is contrary to biblical practices. I told her, I know, but it has nothing to do with with you telling me, but rather it was already the Fathers will for me not to come back after this. I lived at AA and Alanon meetings for years and was helped tremendously and then almost completely stopped. During the worship time, I sat in the back reading my Word. Celebrate Recovery has been a great program for me as well as thousands of others that need the love and support of others. His whole purpose of me going there was to gain insight into these areas, help those who He placed across my path, and then expose and confront the lies of it. (KJV), Isaiah 8:19And when they shall say unto you, Seek unto them that have familiar spirits, and unto wizards that peep, and that mutter: should not a people seek unto their God? He delivered me completely of alcohol, and a great many of other things. In Celebrate Recovery, the levels of recovery are far worse. Ebony, thank you for taking the time to share that with me. They have been talking up the step study lately and there is pressure to join. (Mat 16:19-20). While there are many godly and well-meaning people involved at the local Celebrate Recovery, the message has been twisted. I do believe reaching others, Addicts, Alcoholics and whom so ever will through the church is the area of your calling. Love that has no price tag. It is like taking a pile of poop, and placing the Bible on top. However, that is part of what it means to count the cost (Luke 14:28) of following Christ. There is nothing greater than the blood of the Lamb, the true Creator of the Heavens of the earth, and the King of Kings Lord of Lords, Yeshua. Rom 6:23For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord(BSB), Mark 16:15And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature(KJV), 1 Cor 6:20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are Gods(KJV). uses the 12 Steps and its 8 Principles (supposedly based upon the Beatitudes - acronym spells "recovery") 1. Dangers of self-sufficiency. The program seems to tip-toe around sin and evil instead of calling it out as such.
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