You have that part absolutely right, so why was this protocol ignored? They checked her nails to see if she could have buried the gun and they were clean. After Diane got divorced from her husband in 1980, she had taken up a job at the U.S. postal service office, and that's where she first met him. She was more interested in the affection of men, which on that fateful day in 1983 gave her an idea. The gun is Def a big issue, the style of gun, whether it belonged to him or her, she Def had access to itthe child drew a picture of it, having large similarity to that gunbut it did always baffle me how she could find such a great hide for it in such a short period of time. Removing the children from her and presiding over her criminal trial? At the point Diane jumped into the car, her broken arm (resting in a sling in front of her) slammed into the steering wheel. The police admitting on the stand that after 2 weeks, they stopped looking at suspects appears to be a fact. Thats the problem with high profile cases. It was one of the most disturbing stories I've watched. They hardly investigated any other lead after a couple of weeks. So when Dr. George Suckow from the Oregon State Hospital in Salem was called as a States rebuttal witness and he made a professional diagnosis of Diane as histrionics, antisocial and narcissistic, he openly said in court that he interviewed Diane for 1 hour and read evidence presented by the state to make his diagnosis. In reply to Nick. Seems like she was her worst enemy. Fred Hugi is a man of the highest integrity and I hope that Dianes surviving two children finally found the love and stability they had been denied by their natural mother. Then feel free to correct the facts and to provide evidence to support them. Mr. I ndicted money launderer and noted coup enthusiast Steve Bannon has refused to sit for a deposition in front of the January 6 Select Committee. I watched the paroles hearing in 08, was lucky to find it, it was streamed live at the timemy sister, who is a whiz with computers, found it for me. We cant. Once again, Diane said a lot of things. During cross-examination, she said that she witnessed the murders while sitting up and that Cheryl was sitting up on the front seat when she got shot. I know that most people think she is guilty. Her three small children, Christie, 8; Cheryl, 7; and Danny, 3 . They are still part of their birth family. It opened a huge can of worms regarding the real identity of the heart full of lies in this case. Without the media blast and rush to judgment from the police and DAs office, we might have uncovered the truth. I was shocked any asked why she thought that. Rule sued the Seattle Weekly after they published the article titled Ann Rules Sloppy Storytelling, but she lost and had to make restitution. She may be highly vulnerable to losing control of her emotions in emotionally charged situations, creating faulty judgment and ineffective and inappropriate behavior. Having recently done research on the Liysa Northons case which was the subject of a book written by Ann Rule titled Heart Full of Lies,I came across some very interesting information about the Diane Downs case because Rule attended the trial and also wrote a book about the case called Small Sacrifices. Much worse. If Diane was bipolar, the non-stop chatter would have been inherent to the situation: bipolar wasnt a diagnosable condition at the time of her first trial. But unfortunately, Diane's parents never approved of the relationship as they had high hopes for their daughter's future, which they did not see in Steve. Whats more intriguing is that even after Diane became the prime suspect and lost custody of her surviving children, or when she was convicted, the kids didnt go live with Steve; they were adopted by the lead prosecutor in Dianes case. She waseighteen and soon realized that she had jumped from the fire into the frying pan. If she was the shooter, it had to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. The very suspicious aspect of this ballistic saga is that Hugi said they had the bill of sale and serial number for the first Ruger and it was definitely the murder weapon. Click here to read the complaint. If the goal was to get rid of them, why didnt she emulate her lesser half in this matter? I dont know either if she is guilty or not, but I believe there is a reasonable doubt surrounding the circumstances. The bitches own daughter identified Downs as the shooter. The authorities wanted to see them mourn and fall apart. If you read the blog, it is because of the lie told by prosecutor Hugi that ignored the assessment of her therapist Dr. Jamison and was condemned by the psychiatrist that they were convinced to find her guilty. Then, they accused her of shooting her kids at close range. The goal is always to keep family ties intact. They went after Diane at trial for tapping her foot when they played Hungry like the wolf. The reason Im harsh is because Ive detected that youve paid for this site and therefore cant be wrong. Id have more influence arguing for better relationships with Mexico at a Donald Trump rally in Mexico. Her atrocities made national news, but one person that everyone has been wondering about is Diane Down's ex-husband. She was judged very harshly for her character and her defense was dismal. It is not my point. There is absolutely no evidence that Hungry like the Wolf was playing when Christie got shot but it is another detail they added to bring a dramatic element to this trial. She said a bunch of really stupid things in the media (my kids were lucky, not me gets the palm) and basically bury herself. He failed. And her mental health should definitely have been a factor to release her with follow up care. From reading the blog and my little understanding of this case, Ms Downs remains in custody as she is considered a dangerous offender. Their first child, Christie Ann, was born in 1974. Fingerprints at the crime scene were not produced by the State. Thanks for posting for readers. I know several foster parents and social workers. (He WAS shot in the back remember). Many individuals associated with the the child welfare system, for one reason or another, choose to adopt children. I have researched the case and pointed out discrepancies and the fact that it was not the slam dunk that they were portraying. Thanks for the link. The american system often reminds me of what Charles Dickens talked about in his novels. They were in a group home and he was getting unsupervised visitation with them. I know people who know or knew people is not a valid argument. The trial was a whole miscarriage, that seems undeniable. And if the fact that cops lied about the gun to close the deal did not bother you, it bothered me because this is not due process. Ive been to London to Fly the Queen ~ and Back to Collect Artifacts, Haleigh Cummings Was Once Lost but Now She Is Found, Meet Rene Acoby: In-House Female Dangerous Offender, Kelli Stapleton- A Mothers Wuthering Woes. The person who shot the kids was leaning inside the car because they were shot at close range. 1st, you came back from a trip? But before you get too deep into the drug stuff with Van Houten, she chose to take drugs. Years later, Christie was heard saying by classmates that she did not know who shot her. The towel and a girl who had a stroke, was separated from her family and was constantly questioned without being recorded or accompanied by a loved one and testifying to facts that do not match the testimony of the forensic expert is not being reduced to conjecture? Its too late for me to call myself a murderer (when I am not) just to purchase my freedom. Not optional, kids should not be in limbo that long, but it happens all the time. During Dianes examination at trial, Fred Hugi said in front of the jury, in the form of a question, that she had been diagnosed as a deviant sociopath.. Hello. The board said that her mental or emotional disorder makes her a danger to society. Without her daughters testimony and the lies about the gun, they could not have found her guilty in a fair trial. Even if the nurses notes indicated countless times that the children asked for their mother and enjoyed her visits, they cut them off from the only family they knew and loved; supposedly for their own protection. Diane was found guilty and sentenced to life and she has been in prison ever since. Oh my. But her behavior became the most important factor in the investigation that followed. Ive not seen the movie or read the book. You mention that her attorney should have raised objections. But I will answer the points you raised about the blog. Charlene would call Diane at all hours of the day and night to threaten violence if Diane continued on with her husband. The fact that she and her brother Danny were eventually adopted by Fred Hugi who prosecuted Diane Downs is the most blatant case of conflict of interest I have ever heard of. woman quot~ unquote, do you remember anything like that? Saudi Princesses in Captivity for More Than a Thousand and One Nights Are Tweeting the Blues, Having recently done research on the Liysa Northons case which was the subject of a book written by Ann Rule titled, Some 287 errors and falsehoods were documented by Liysa and verified by official sources. She never mentioned that before, and she doesnt mention the FBI agents name. She was no mother of the year, I will grant them that, but a trial is supposed to be based on evidence. ..a little over year before the shooting had a surrogate babypregnancy and giving the baby awayumits donnoits the gal already had a fragile mentality.may not have been the best idea. I dont know the woman. What about the terror of being interrogated by strangers and separated from her family? This whole case is flawed. The courts were divided in the 80s, family court, traffic court, criminal court, juvenile court I dont believe they ran out of judges to preside over them all. Downs: Oh yeah, I remember the pictures, too. ANNE RULES BOOK IS A LIE, ,ALL MADE UP CRAP. It was known as Manic Depression. They never tried to reunite them with family. You fail to mention what her daughter actually said about her communication with Diane, like Diane telling her that a very powerful person, a secret man, has been watching her, and that if she loved her son she would move away or else her son will grow up to be a murderer. The cops admitted that they never investigated the tips about a bushy haired stranger. And Hugi seemed pretty sure he would get what he was asking for. Within a few weeks, the kids who had survived were placed in protective custody and were no longer in Steve's care. So not addressing the content of the blog and rambling about everything else while asking for a disclaimer is nailing it? This case flew under my radar so to speak because it happened before my time. Yes, I had filed for divorce and then I canceled it. Our legal system is not perfect. Diane did not get a fair trial. At that timeand now!! The tape is real and probably not admissible, but it seems to indicate that her testimony was coerced. Some of your facts arent facts at all. Posted by October 30, 2021 apush gilded age test on why didn't steve downs get custody The way it was. In 1984, the lead prosecutor in the Danie case, Fred Hugi and his wife, Joanne, chose to adopt the children (Christie and Danny). Just goes to show how difficult it is sometimes to find the truth. Nobody near to help. After graduation, Steven joined the Navy and Diane was sent to Pacific Coast Baptist Bible College where she failed miserably at remaining pure and chaste, not unlike most girls of her generation who rejected their strict religious upbringing. Maybe dad relinquished, it sounds like he may have. I just read your opinion on the Pamela Smart case and the Scott Peterson case. Yes, I had to go and sign the lease, yes, sir. It is not, nor should be, a Conflict of Interest for a caring adult to Foster one or more siblings. It is my hope that Leslie Van Houten and Diane Downs are never paroled. Of course, because this is what she does when people put her on the spot and ask questions concerning her mother and the shooting. I have watched her parole hearing. I guess he did not want too many people to know about the improprieties that happened in his courtroom. And Ann Rule said that the unicorn that was omnipresent in court was part of the premeditation. Of course. It was omnipresent in the courtroom as well as the Duran Duran song, The judge instructed them to continue on to force a verdict. Mr. Downs must have had a bad feeling about Jagger because before trial, he tried to retain defense attorney Melvin Belli who had the reputation of fighting for his clients and to win all his cases. I think that Van Houten was recommended for parole by a system that assessed that after 40 years, she was not a threat to society and a reformed woman. You need real evidence in court. BUT the babies were put in Foster Care before any allegations were made Family has defended and backed Diane for her Innocence clearly from day one The state took them away from all family because family was and is the enemy Diane Downs was one of the most infamous murderers of the 1980s; the emotionally flat blonde was convicted of shooting her three children, killing one of them, along a roadway in Springfield,. It does not get any bigger than this. Instead of grieving, Alice went partying and had sex. At first I thought she did it, now I made further research and I dont know what to think. I refer you to this section of the blog: They claimed to have found two lead cartridges in Dianes rifle at home that supposedly matched the ones used during the crime. Fitness fanatic, 27, broke her spine lifting weights but didn't realise until she woke up the next morning unable to move - and why her terrifying injury should be a warning to all gym-goers This is also a faster route to give the children permanency, and is far cheaper for the child welfare system that is always strained by the budget. I dont understand how the family court managed to isolate 2 severely traumatized and grievously injured children from their entire family. Once you are vilified in the media in the US, the way Downs and others have been, a lot of people shut their eyes and their mind to any other possibility than what was presented in the court of public opinion. They are set in stone and people refuse to see it any other way. During closing arguments, Fred Hugi said that the murder weapon used by Diane was a Ruger, and the state had the model number and the bill of sale. The time was spent waiting for the clock to tick down the final seconds for all appeals to the parental termination to be allowed. I am not sure. Downs is a worthless as the day is long.. Maybe you should read the blog before commenting. Not an easy situation for him as I would imagine. The states own witness, Dr. George Suckow and Dr. Polly Jamison denounced Prosecutor Hugis practice as improper and unethical (Appendix 101 and 104). She s. Dianes brother, James, sat in court one day andnoticed Foote looking at Hugi before ruling on an objection. She was a first time offender who has shown no violent tendencies and is afflicted with a mental illness. Dianes ex-lover, Robert Knickerbocker, also said the same. For all my life I have thought I was not that smart, but now I can tell myself, hey cheer up could be worse. Insulting a woman in prison since 30 years instead of debating the inconsistencies of this case is pretty pathetic. You cant possibly shake off all the gun powder residue and avoid all the blood. The detectives and the state failed to act properly and it should not be an accepted practice. Mr. Downs must have had a bad feeling about Jagger because before trial: speculation By the way, Dianes parents mourn the loss of their grandchildren to this day. It was pretty apparent during the course of this saga that the media and the state were willing to give a free pass to anyone willing to badmouth Diane. The photo of Hugi I used is the one you find when you do a search online for Fred Hugi who prosecuted Diane Downs. Strangely enough, a woman who was seen for 8 months by a psychologist and declared to be in shock and suffering from a mood disorder, would now be assessed by the State hired psychiatrist to confirm the label Hugi conveniently made up during trial. Otherwise you just want people to fill your echo chamber that agree with you, tell anyone else you obviously dont want to debate me.., then ban, then hope for people to agree. She would have been released under strict conditions with the support of her family and under the care of a mental health specialist. She had no blood spatter or gun powder residue on her hands,clothing or hair. Not unlike Diane, Alice did not want to share her pain in public. The definition of deviant sociopath does not even exist in the DSM-HI, which is the official psychiatric diagnostic manual. It sounds like this was not the case with Dianes children. It is not, as the blogger frequently refers to, evidence. When your goal is to call me dude, insult my name and trash my blog, you can go on other sites who will love to spar with you while swallowing the old narrative of high profile cases. You are telling me to take my smugness elsewhere because it is tiresome. Even prosecutor Fred Hugi was seen walking the grounds to try to find the weapon. But Diane couldnt do that. Lets not forget that she was presumed to have fired a gun 6 times at close range within the confines of a small car. They examined her clothes also. Yes, but it is a fact that she was starting to say that she did not know who shot them when it happened. Any thoughts on that? So she could not have shot her kids at the distance determined by the state unless she changed her clothing and it did not come up at trial. It gave Anne Rule carte blanche to legally use these labels in her book and it stuck. Inflammatory and speculative She learnedat a young age to keep her emotions in check and to always present a strong and brave front. As for Diane, give me a break. She attacked her husband and ripped his neck open in a jealous rage (Appendix 81, page 1520), tearing from his neck the gold chain he still wore from his first marriage (a gift from his first wife). Shes where she belongs. The detective said to leave that up to the police. On a side note, what do you think of parole of Leslie Van Houton? Her other daughter and son were severely injured. What happened to Diane Downs' husband? Indeed, Diane Down's murder case was a shocker for detectives. And by the way, I wrote the blogs about Rule way before she passed. It seems that the Downs were totally ignored. By the way, this not a Diane Downs is innocent blog. It is a lets examine the facts of the case with hindsight and try to explain some of the inconsistencies and the role of the media and crime writers. And lets wonder why the US think that letting people die in prison is the answer when most civilized countries have reached other conclusions. We already know that. I cannot be more transparent than that and integrity was one of the missing pieces of the entire case. As she is incarcerated, her fate is already sealed, servicing her life sentence in prison. Foote ruled in favor of the prosecution and against the defenseon most of the admissible evidence questions including all the nurses notes about Danny talking about a man shooting him but admitted Christies reports about her mother shooting her. I also grew up in as time of the most infamous case in Australias judicial history: Lindy Chamberlain and the dingo stole my baby. She was the prosecutions only hope. Diane found with him,the kind of relationship she had never known before: there was actually care and intimacy involved. She was no mother of the year and in the car when the kids got shot. What is known for a fact, is, Prosecutor Fred Hugi took physical custody of Christie and Danny shortly after Christies confessions to her school mates, and he officially adopted them in the summer of 1986.
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